An Average Runner Paul

Which Marathon Plan to Choose? – Beginning of Marathon Training

With September well on the way, Janel and I are in countdown mode until we run our winter races (a half marathon and marathon). Most training blocks for these events last for 16 weeks so it was time to get started…as of a couple weeks ago. Like most things in my life, I procrastinated and I am now tackling my training plan.

I had hoped to set a personal record in the marathon this spring for a time of 3:30 and came up short (40ish minutes short to be more accurate). The Irving Marathon tended to be way hotter than expected and the humidity did me in. Also, my lack of training was probably the biggest hurdle to setting a personal record that day and I was happy to have the high light of my running year be Janel finishing her first half marathon! Woohoo Queen!

My training this time around would include shooting for 2,000 feet of elevation gain each week and averaging about 30-40 miles of running. So far I started September at 25 miles of running for the week and I hit almost 2,500 feet of climbing. One of the goals has been reached! The amount of elevation I got in surprised me and I hope to continue to carry that positive momentum into the Fall miles.

Now, many people train for marathons in a variety of different ways. Some wing it (not recommended based off my personal experience), some hire a coach, some read a plan through a book or may listen to others who have done so. You may find a plan online. Tons of options out there and it may be hard to figure out which one is the way to go.

I’d probably do a combination of a few things above (in the most frugal way) but hopefully I could share some research I found here for others to follow.

Which Marathon Plan is Best for Me?

When I type that question into a search engine, my blog pops up as the number one hit which is pretty cool! Just kidding.

When you actually type it in, you may find Runner’s World with its recommendations or specific athletes and coaches who are well known for their plans. I decided to research a few out of the many and I began with the first one that popped up on my screen and dove into it. Howdy Hal!

Hal Higdon’s Plan – Search Spot One

  • Why should you listen to this plan?
    • According to Hal, he has helped over half a million runners reach the end of a marathon. He is an accomplished runner himself with numerous championships in his youth, top finishes in several prestigious marathons, and he holds one of the longest lasting American master records from a Steeplechase event set in 1975. Might be someone to listen too.
  • What makes this plan special?
    • He has plans for beginners all the way to advanced runners. Hal gives a great understanding of how to build up to the long run in a safe, low risk injury way with a focus on getting athletes across the finish line. His weekday runs and explanations are simple to understand (Doesn’t mean training is always easy!) and it fits well with everything else that may be going on in your life. Balance is key.

Pete Pfitzinger’s Plan – Search Spot Two

  • Why should you listen to this plan?
    • Reddit was on the second search engine spot and one user posted about following the Pfitzinger Marathon plan. According to Reddit, Pfitz is similar to Hal in his background of exercise science and performance in the marathon distance. He has written several books on marathon training and was an Olympian in the 1980s for the marathon distance. Sounds like he is a little too fast to be a writer on this blog.
  • What makes this plan special?
    • Known as Uncle Pete in the running world (I didn’t know this before so it looks like we all share an Uncle now!), he focuses on advanced marathon performance. He throws in a longer run during the week which may tell the runner aspiring to follow his plan to set aside extra time for training. Pete is more specific with a runner’s pace during training. You may be asked to go a little harder during ‘easy’ days and pick up the pace during some of the longer runs. The result of this is a faster performance!

Runner’s World Plan – Search Spot Three

  • Why should you listen to this plan?
    • Runner’s World is one of the largest running-centered magazines in the world. It hosts the opinions of many contributing runners that have an enormous depth of knowledge of the sport. They have Olympic contributors, top notch coaches, health experts, and many more. Runner’s World has many plans for all individuals, regardless of talent or experience.
  • What makes this plan special?
    • The vast amounts of plans available! There are plans for running specific times from 5:30 to 5:15 to 5:00 all the way into the 2 hour 30 minute time slots. Most of us are slowly improving in the marathon each attempt and knocking off 15 minutes at a time is more manageable than taking an hour plus off one’s time. Although, I wouldn’t be unhappy knocking an hour plus off my marathon personal best…

So Which is Best?

As of many things in life, it depends! It’s pretty much up to the runner themself. I don’t think Pfitz will work best for my schedule especially with two long runs and the advanced training required. In my mind, I think I have a strong base of running mileage and advanced running knowledge. My data says otherwise. I’ll probably use different pieces off all the plans and focus on the long run each week. That is often the most important run of the week because at the end of the day for a marathon, you do need to cover 26.2 miles. No way getting around that distance. I guess you could cheat via car but that’s less fun (although way less painful).

Let me know if you have a favorite marathon training plan and I would love to learn more! If you have done one in the past, have you been happy with it?

12 responses to “Which Marathon Plan to Choose? – Beginning of Marathon Training”

  1. I have followed plans for both marathons and Ironmans and I find them to be one-size-fits-all for the most part. Since I train myself, I learned that you have to adapt any plan to your needs. I’m almost 62 years old, many plans do not take that into account. Nor do they know that you are a so-so or a gifted runner. So I have to make adjustments to the plans I choose to follow. I’m a user of Don & Melanie Fink’s plans, and I have had success with their IronFit’s Marathons After 40, and I have used his Be Iron Fit plan to great success, with many adjustments to the plans to make it more personal.

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    1. Good point about the age and skill factor. I haven’t heard of those other ones before and I am excited to read more about them!

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      1. These are the lessons you learn over years and miles of running. Keep exploring!

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  2. I’ve been using chatGPT for my half marathon training (with a bit of tweaking). Truth will tell over the next few weeks with my B race tomorrow then A race in a few weeks. Admittedly, I didn’t set it a time target, I was happy setting out just to get round. I think I used Hal Higdon many years ago for a half as a newbie but ended up with shin splints. But I like him, and his plans in principle, plus they’re free. I’ve heard good things about the Ben Parkes plans, the basic one for each distance is free whereas the rest are paid (about $10).

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    1. Bummer about the shin splints! I haven’t heard of Ben Parkes but I have seen your Chatgbt 5k plan working well! I would be curious to see what it recommends for a full marathon plan and if it bases it off a specific runner’s plan.

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      1. Give it a go. It lets you have a free amount of computational power each day.

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        1. It pulls up quite the interesting plan maxing out at 55 miles per week. I better get to running a bit more! I do like its ideas for mile and 800 workouts.

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        2. You can ask it to adjust the weekly mileage to something lower. It’s pretty good at taking suggestions.

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  3. Good stuff, Paul. A few suggestions on this topic, having brought my marathon down from 3:25 at 31 years to 2:44 at 38 years (hopefully sub 2:40 this fall!) while drawing from Run Elite, McMillan, Jason Fitzgerald, my dad’s wisdom from 30+ marathons, personal experience, and other sources.

    1. Find a sustainable, consistent weekly rhythm. Do/will you run 3x, 4x, 5x a week? More? Do you lift 1x, 2x, or 3x per week? Do you have a weekly cross-training routine? Before you plan the WHAT, you need a clear answer to WHEN that you can sustain with >95% consistency.
    2. Adopt a tri-phasic training structure. For 18 weeks, that’s 6 weeks of base training (just easy with strides & hill sprints, gradually increasing mileage and long run); 6 weeks of support training (adding 1-2x workouts per week, ideally one speed/hills/fartlek to target VO2 max and one tempo/threshold to target LT); 6 weeks of specific training incl taper (same frequency but workouts converge on marathon pace, with a number of quality long runs and steady states with 4-10mi at MP as well as alternation runs).
    3. Extracurricular activities’ matter a lot. You may have a great plan that’s a good fit for you, but if you’re eating garbage, drinking alcohol regularly, sleeping poorly, carrying work/family stress, and ignoring strength training, you’ll get hurt and/or fall short of your potential. Lifestyle adjustments can make a huge difference. Some plans don’t prescribe any strength training, but it should be mandatory for all marathoners.
    4. Personalized plans will take you further. Training for NYC or Boston is totally different from training for Chicago or London. If you’ve always gotten hurt when running 40 or 50mi/wk, you need a plan that accounts for that with cross-training. If you can’t run on X day of the week, you need to account for that. You can work with ChatGPT or another AI on this personalization – just put a lot of time into prompting it thoroughly and recognize that it will, by and large, tell you what you want to hear unless you prompt it otherwise.
    5. Runna seems to be really conservative. Though not mentioned in the article, Runna seems to be the most popular answer right now to the question you’ve posed. And it’s not that bad, TBH – lots of smart workouts, some individual tailoring, self-adjusts, very easy to use. Two areas of weakness I can see are (a) MP sessions start too early and (b) overall it seems really conservative with mileage. That may change over time, but I suspect Runna is trying to avoid people getting injured and frustrated (as a result, it’s also less geared towards big breakthrough results).

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    1. Wow, very insightful and thank you for sharing all that information! I like the highlight of what an extracurricular activity really means because I do enjoy a few drinks at a brewery over the weekend and that makes for a lazy Sunday morning and a low quality run that day. I haven’t heard of Runna before so that should be interesting to read about. And yes, the consistency is key! When I ran in college, guys were happy to top 100 miles plus per week and few could hold that amount of mileage. Guys that held 70-80 consistently produced fantastic race results as the season continued. Thanks for sharing again!

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  4. At times in the past I tried both Higdon’s and Hansons’ plans, then decided to create a kind of hybrid of the two. In recent years I’ve been using Greg McMillan’s plans. I have especially appreciated how some of his plans target specific races, like one for Boston that incorporates hill repeats, and one for the Dopey Challenge that helped prepare me for racing 4 days in a row. I’m using one of his more general plans right now and still tweak as needed. When it was 90° for many of my speed days it turned into just survive. 😅

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    1. Never heard of it, thanks for sharing! And I get that 90+ weather where the runs turn into survival mode. Almost every summer run for me!

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